From: Eystein Jansen To: imprint-ssc@bjerknes.uib.no Subject: RE: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:17:44 +0100 Cc: mschulz@palmod.uni-bremen.de, stocker@climate.unibe.ch Hi, just for clarification as we continue on the St.2 proposal (you´ll get the mailing tomrrow with documents, scheduling etc. as planned). The merger of ICON into Imprint was discussed several times in the preparatory phase of Imprint (before name was decided) in meetings we had in London early last year. However a number of the present WP leaders did not take part in these early deliberations, hence this is the reason for the lack of a collective memory of the background. Reasons for including it: 1. Good science,on a topic of high relevance (abrupt climate change) focussed and with emphasis on aspects dealing with preedictability of such changes rather than mapping out their distribution and impact (as has been done before). 3. Important to avoid competing proposals within urope to avoid the paleo-community being marginalised. Cheers, Eystein At 09:18 +0000 31-01-05, Tett, Simon wrote: >Hi Rainer, > Until our recent meeting in London I was >not aware of the history and do not recall any >discussion about blending ICON into the project. >I expect that is a decision Eystein made. >However, I am very glad that the work is part of >the IP. I think it will allow much better >science to be done. > >Simon > >Dr Simon Tett Managing Scientist, Data development and applications. >Met Office Hadley Centre (Reading Unit) >Meteorology Building, University of Reading Reading RG6 6BB >Tel: +44 (0)118 378 5614 Fax +44 (0)118 378 5615 >Mobex: +44-(0)1392 886886 >E-mail: simon.tett@metoffice.gov.uk http://www.metoffice.gov.uk >Global climate data sets are available from http://www.hadobs.org > > >-----Original Message----- >From: rainer.zahn@icrea.es [mailto:rainer.zahn@icrea.es] >Sent: 31 January 2005 08:45 >To: imprint-ssc@bjerknes.uib.no; >eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no; >oyvind.paasche@geo.uib.no; Erick.Larson@fa.uib.no >Cc: mschulz@palmod.uni-bremen.de; stocker@climate.unibe.ch >Subject: > > >Simon, > >I couldn't agree more on the issue of having the science focussed in >Imprint. I am surprised though that the background behind having WP3 and >Task 4.6 in Imprint does not appear to be common knowledge within Imprint. >Thought the merger has been discussed and agreed upon by the consortium. > >We will move forward with our WP and see that we get the Holocene part in >WP3/4.6 strengthened so as to make fit with the timescales of the rest of >the planned work. > >As a note on the side, you may have noted in the comments of the independent >assessor that Eystein contracted in for advice that he mentions WP3 >specifically for its clarity and relevance. While I tend to agree I am also >aware that he probably is not the specialist to assess the issue of >relevance and significance. Yet, in the WP3 description we are asking a set >of clear-cut questions, which to me doesn't seem the case for other WPs that >leave an unforturnate impression of confusion. Beyond the needed scientific >focus mentioned on several occasions in London and your email, clarity is an >issue that does not seem to be equally distributed throughout the proposal. >So as much as I do sympathise with the discussion about the sense or >non-sense of have WP3 in Imprint, I am convinced to my heart that we need to >improve profoundly on the quality of our WP descriptions if Imprint is to >stand a chance of being considered for funding. > >Cheers, Rainer > > Rainer Zahn, Professor de Recerca > Institució Catalana de Recerca i Estudis Avançats, ICREA >i Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona > Institut de Ciencia i Tecnologia Ambientals > Edifici Cn - Campus UAB > E-08193 Bellaterra (Cerdanyola), Spain > > Phone: +34 - 93 581 4219 > Fax: +34 - 93 581 3331 > email: rainer.zahn@icrea.es, rainer.zahn@uab.es -- ______________________________________________________________ Eystein Jansen Professor/Director Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen Allégaten 55 N-5007 Bergen NORWAY e-mail: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661 Fax: +47-55-584330 ----------------------- The Bjerknes Training site offers 3-12 months fellowships to PhD students More info at: www.bjerknes.uib.no/mcts ----------------------------------------------------------------------------