Received: from imta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.61]) by sccrmxc20.comcast.net (sccrmxc20) with ESMTP id <20081108193621s2000pjjh5e>; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:36:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.96.62.61] Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.142]) by IMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cjcL1a01L34Ewxc07jcLme; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:36:21 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UeppDFHV6X8A:10 a=AjvT6HYGqcgA:10 a=U2qEZL+zltkLcjkeW5Jhrg==:17 a=7CBx79aaAAAA:8 a=DjmawdlsAAAA:8 a=tb8WlFYsAAAA:8 a=_cHHPzC-AAAA:8 a=gUbaYAUbAAAA:8 a=MWTgyNA4HlVoKY7mpHsA:9 a=Q4RhOhdzaq8dFlMmd8AA:7 a=RVGE_FVpiFJn7QsKv7dk_OX4NGkA:4 a=Nx49Nm1JYn8A:10 a=TBLMhssfw4AA:10 a=ai_ELEchHZUA:10 a=p-Aumf9vnFUA:10 a=oH_WKSxD8ioA:10 a=XeM73lbpWGnFjIgHyjoA:9 a=DsQC-py5giKQpiiVYGUA:7 a=NdbyStY2iuSvJ3S56oxQQBh_-mUA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Received: from [128.84.24.28] (cpe-69-202-76-99.twcny.res.rr.com [69.202.76.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mA8JaI4T022702 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:36:20 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: chg2@postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002101c941c3$c208e200$c2f1d162@paulvsheridan> References: <002101c941c3$c208e200$c2f1d162@paulvsheridan> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:36:18 -0500 To: "Paul V. Sheridan" From: greene Subject: Re: 'Unprecedented' warming drives dramatic ecosystem shifts in North Atlantic, study finds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-985949516==_ma============" --============_-985949516==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" My comments are based on the IPCC 4th assessment report. I don't base my science on television, especially since penguins are not found in the Arctic. And, please do not correspond with me about this again. CHG >http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Nov08/Greene.kr.html > > >Charles: > >The presumed context of "recent decades" comes to us in the first >paragraph of the subject/linked article where later you are quoted: > > "the rate of warming we are seeing [now] is unprecedented in human history," > >Are you referring to the 'hockey stick' issue when you make that >claim? When you make that quoted claim, are you referring to the >human history of record keeping, or are you referring to human >history in terms of its supposed life span on the planet in-total? >I must assume the former, correct? > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/15/goddard_arctic_ice_mystery/ > > >Did you see the recent NBC News report which alleged North Polar ice >sheet reductions; the report that depicted penquins falling off >icebergs? Is this Penquin issue discussed in your Ecology (Vol. >89, No. 11) November report? I ask because the media seems to have >gotten cold feet lately about Antartica: > >http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/08/050819093118.htm > > >Please address the 'hockey stick' question above. > >Paul Sheridan > > > >Other links of interest: > >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23411799-7583,00.html > >http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020820southseaice.html -- Charles H. Greene, Director Ocean Resources and Ecosystems Program Department of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences 2130 Snee Hall, Cornell University Telephone: (607) 255-5449 Ithaca, NY 14853-2701 FAX: (607) 254-4780 --============_-985949516==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: 'Unprecedented' warming drives dramatic ecosystem shif
My comments are based on the IPCC 4th assessment report. I don't base my science on television, especially since penguins are not found in the Arctic. And, please do not correspond with me about this again.

CHG


http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Nov08/Greene.kr.html
 
 
Charles:
 
The presumed context of "recent decades" comes to us in the first paragraph of the subject/linked article where later you are quoted:
 
 "the rate of warming we are seeing [now] is unprecedented in human history,"
 
Are you referring to the 'hockey stick' issue when you make that claim?  When you make that quoted claim, are you referring to the human history of record keeping, or are you referring to human history in terms of its supposed life span on the planet in-total?  I must assume the former, correct?
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/15/goddard_arctic_ice_mystery/
 
 
Did you see the recent NBC News report which alleged North Polar ice sheet reductions; the report that depicted penquins falling off icebergs?  Is this Penquin issue discussed in your  Ecology (Vol. 89, No. 11) November report?  I ask because the media seems to have gotten cold feet lately about Antartica:
 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/08/050819093118.htm
 
 
Please address the 'hockey stick' question above.
 
Paul Sheridan
 
 
 
Other links of interest:
 
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23411799-7583,00.html
 
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020820southseaice.html


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Charles H. Greene, Director
Ocean Resources and Ecosystems Program
Department of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences             
2130 Snee Hall, Cornell University              Telephone: (607) 255-5449
Ithaca, NY 14853-2701                          FAX: (607) 254-4780
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